And if I am required to give my body over to the State, I assume that the State will provide support such as free day care, paid leave, etc?**
** I don't necessarily support such policies as things stand now -- but if you're gonna argue that I should be required to undergo pregnancy and childbirth for the good of the State, then I think I would be entitled to something in return.
Feminist...not your obligation to pump out more taxpayers...just keep your legs closed or use responsible contraception.
See...if you have control over your body in the FIRST place, then the argument about "The State" controlling it is moot.
The 12-year old is defending those who cannot defend themselves...the child that is created when sperm meets egg. Nobody is arguing that you MUST procreate. But if you do, be responsible and don't take the easy way out.
Something like that...
Oh...I know I'm a guy so perhaps I don't have a right to this argument because "I wouldn't know".
First you link to an article blaming the dearth of taxpayers on the availability of abortion and contraception.
Then you say, if I don't want to pump out kids for the collective I should just (ahem) "keep [my] legs shut" or use adequate contraception -- both fine options but neither of which solve the taxpayer issue.
Then you switch gears again and link to a story about how great it is that your mother was forced to have you at 16 -- a blessed event that would not have occurred if she had either kept her legs up or used adequate contraception.
Methinks someone is having a little trouble keeping his story straight. :)
Feh. I'm against abortion, but what I'm really concerned about is TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZED abortion. If you wanna schlep off into the woods with a coathanger, that should be between you and God. You've committed a vile sin, but I didn't know your child, and I have no emotional stake in his/her death. I'd tell you it's wrong, but it's up to you to listen or not, and it's up to God to judge. It's possible the child MIGHT have been a mass-murderer rather than a boon to society, and you may have saved the world a lot of heartache (but the odds would be HEAVILY against that, even with a piss-poor upbringing). Just don't tell me that the government has any right to take tax money from me and spend it on things that I regard not just as objectionable, but an outright SIN---and that publicly-funded hospitals should be forced by law to provide the killing, mkay?
Uh...there was MUCH more to that link than the assertion that abortion hurts our tax base.
Although it does. Anyone with rudimentary training in economics knows the effect of abortions and population control has on a nations economy...especially one that insists on deficit spending.
We're not "changing the subject". We have a multi-tiered argument against abortion.
Actually, the 12-year old girl in the video was what I found intriguing about the link.
Did you watch it?
Can you refute anything she says?
(Warning...the following is tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, designed specifically to make any humorless feminist blind with rage. I do the same thing with Islamotards...)
As far as whether or not you should be forced to have babies...I think we can all agree that you mothering a child would be a detriment to society, so please use good contraception if you find a man desperate enough to mount you...
Heh. I come back to this obscure little blog because I am genuinely interested in the workings of the misogynist mind.
One thing I notice is that you and your pal B. Smith seem to revel in the presumed rage or outrage of me or other feminists. This is a weird pre-occupation you guys have. Maybe it involves some sort of unresolved mommy issues buried deep in your little psyches?
The second thing that I am fascinated by is your pre-occupation with the fuckability of various feminists. Yeah, I get that it's supposed to be funny. But generally something is funny if it actually has something to do with the topic at hand. "You're ugly" doesn't qualify as especially witty. And when you have never laid eyes on the person, it's totally out of left field.
But I do think it's ironic that an old, washed-up guy who hates women is passing judgment on anyone else's fuckability. You know the saying about those who live in glass houses, right?
Yeah, the 12 year old girl is charismatic and bright. She sounds like me when I was 12. I don't think she had anything new to say on the subject, nor do I. She thinks the continued development of a zygote trumps any interest the woman might have, whereas I believe that no one (least of all a completely undeveloped zygote or embryo) has the right to suck off the organs of another person against that person's will.
-- Feminist
P.S. I think its debatable whether abortion hurts our tax base. After all, if I have one kid because I wasn't allowed to get an abortion, then I will probably not have the additional kid I would have otherwise had later. But be that as it may, it seems that even you would not argue that forcing reproduction is not the solution to tax base issues. That sort of reasoning could lead to mandatory fucking starting at puberty, the banning of contraception, and other notions that are contrary to conservative values of limited government.
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Huh, I didn't realize it was my obligation to pump out taxpayers for the Collective/Motherland.
Now that that link has explained it to me, I'll get right on that.
-- Feminist
And if I am required to give my body over to the State, I assume that the State will provide support such as free day care, paid leave, etc?**
** I don't necessarily support such policies as things stand now -- but if you're gonna argue that I should be required to undergo pregnancy and childbirth for the good of the State, then I think I would be entitled to something in return.
-- Feminist
Feminist...not your obligation to pump out more taxpayers...just keep your legs closed or use responsible contraception.
See...if you have control over your body in the FIRST place, then the argument about "The State" controlling it is moot.
The 12-year old is defending those who cannot defend themselves...the child that is created when sperm meets egg. Nobody is arguing that you MUST procreate. But if you do, be responsible and don't take the easy way out.
Something like that...
Oh...I know I'm a guy so perhaps I don't have a right to this argument because "I wouldn't know".
Not true:
http://thisgoesto11.blogspot.com/2008/03/obama-babies-are-punishment.html
Read ALL of it if you want to understand why this is personal to me.
Couldn't. Have. Said. It. Better.
Again, you seem to have brought out the 'Anonymous' outrage of the leftist moronosphere. Congratulations- there should be an award for that.
You are a mass of contradictions, my friend.
First you link to an article blaming the dearth of taxpayers on the availability of abortion and contraception.
Then you say, if I don't want to pump out kids for the collective I should just (ahem) "keep [my] legs shut" or use adequate contraception -- both fine options but neither of which solve the taxpayer issue.
Then you switch gears again and link to a story about how great it is that your mother was forced to have you at 16 -- a blessed event that would not have occurred if she had either kept her legs up or used adequate contraception.
Methinks someone is having a little trouble keeping his story straight. :)
-- Feminist
Feh. I'm against abortion, but what I'm really concerned about is TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZED abortion.
If you wanna schlep off into the woods with a coathanger, that should be between you and God. You've committed a vile sin, but I didn't know your child, and I have no emotional stake in his/her death. I'd tell you it's wrong, but it's up to you to listen or not, and it's up to God to judge. It's possible the child MIGHT have been a mass-murderer rather than a boon to society, and you may have saved the world a lot of heartache (but the odds would be HEAVILY against that, even with a piss-poor upbringing).
Just don't tell me that the government has any right to take tax money from me and spend it on things that I regard not just as objectionable, but an outright SIN---and that publicly-funded hospitals should be forced by law to provide the killing, mkay?
And B Smith changes the subject AGAIN!
I think now we can all agree to discard this whole idea that increasing the tax base is a good justification for forcing women to have babies.
-- Feminist
Feminist...
Uh...there was MUCH more to that link than the assertion that abortion hurts our tax base.
Although it does. Anyone with rudimentary training in economics knows the effect of abortions and population control has on a nations economy...especially one that insists on deficit spending.
We're not "changing the subject". We have a multi-tiered argument against abortion.
Actually, the 12-year old girl in the video was what I found intriguing about the link.
Did you watch it?
Can you refute anything she says?
(Warning...the following is tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, designed specifically to make any humorless feminist blind with rage. I do the same thing with Islamotards...)
As far as whether or not you should be forced to have babies...I think we can all agree that you mothering a child would be a detriment to society, so please use good contraception if you find a man desperate enough to mount you...
Heh. I come back to this obscure little blog because I am genuinely interested in the workings of the misogynist mind.
One thing I notice is that you and your pal B. Smith seem to revel in the presumed rage or outrage of me or other feminists. This is a weird pre-occupation you guys have. Maybe it involves some sort of unresolved mommy issues buried deep in your little psyches?
The second thing that I am fascinated by is your pre-occupation with the fuckability of various feminists. Yeah, I get that it's supposed to be funny. But generally something is funny if it actually has something to do with the topic at hand. "You're ugly" doesn't qualify as especially witty. And when you have never laid eyes on the person, it's totally out of left field.
But I do think it's ironic that an old, washed-up guy who hates women is passing judgment on anyone else's fuckability. You know the saying about those who live in glass houses, right?
Yeah, the 12 year old girl is charismatic and bright. She sounds like me when I was 12. I don't think she had anything new to say on the subject, nor do I. She thinks the continued development of a zygote trumps any interest the woman might have, whereas I believe that no one (least of all a completely undeveloped zygote or embryo) has the right to suck off the organs of another person against that person's will.
-- Feminist
P.S. I think its debatable whether abortion hurts our tax base. After all, if I have one kid because I wasn't allowed to get an abortion, then I will probably not have the additional kid I would have otherwise had later. But be that as it may, it seems that even you would not argue that forcing reproduction is not the solution to tax base issues. That sort of reasoning could lead to mandatory fucking starting at puberty, the banning of contraception, and other notions that are contrary to conservative values of limited government.
if you find a man desperate enough to mount you...
Wait a minute. I just realized something.
You're coming on to me, aren't you?
:) Feminist
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